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Since When Did Illness Become a Criminal Offense?

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As the title of this video suggests, we are discussing "When did illness become a criminal offense?" I'm not really trying to make this video to point this out specifically at Thailand although as we'll get into the analysis here, it has kind of got a Thailand angle obviously but the yeah this seems to be the case like internationally. We have just thrown out all notions of due process in any context, in any country and we have just sort of said "Oh well if you have an illness that we deem, we the Establishment if you will and I don't really like to get into establishment this or that but, that is deemed, let’s just say is deemed to be a problem, whatever you want to call it, we can just basically do with you whatever we want. It is as if you are a criminal. It is really pretty scary stuff and getting into this, I was reading a recent article from the Thaiger, that is thethaiger.com, article is titled: German man believed to have Monkeypox briefly fled police. The title alone to me is Orwellian. Again just "believed to have monkeypox then fled police". Another one, we have done this, we have asked this question: What happened to Medical Privacy? What happened to Doctor - Patient Confidentiality? I mean the purpose of confidentiality is to tamp down hysteria just like this; it's one of the purposes, one of many. Privacy is also another one. Another huge reason that nobody seems to be thinking about is if people don't have Medical Privacy, they are not going to go visit physicians to get cured and remedied of illnesses. And if they are not cured and remedied of illnesses because they are afraid of being detained without due process, then they are going to be out running around infecting other people which again it is a good reason to have confidentiality in these circumstances.

In any event going back to this, the Thaiger, thethaiger.com, I urge folks who are watching this video to go check that out, there is a lot of information in there. I'm going to do a brief quote here. Again the title is: German man believed to have monkeypox briefly fled police. Quoting directly: "Results are pending for the first test of what could be the fifth person in Thailand to be confirmed with Monkeypox." (Again, "could be", and "to be confirmed" - it is pending. So a person is now guilty of an illness until proven innocent? You know this isn't a rant. These are legal ramifications. People are being detained for something, people would not be detained for this a couple of years ago. What has changed? Why has the paradigm radically shifted? That is one major question I have. Okay) Quoting further: "Another German man, this time from Koh Chang island. Similar to the first case, when a Nigerian man fled the country before being caught in Cambodia", (and they don't really mention here that the Nigerian man is, all of his medical confidentiality was just completely thrown out of the window. There were photos of him up everywhere, we discussed this in another video). Quoting further: "When a Nigerian man fled the country before being caught in Cambodia, this tourist attempted to escape when asked to submit to testing for Monkeypox." Again, “escape”? When asked to be tested for something? This verbiage, it is really out of line with the reality in my opinion, of what is going on here. I am not calling out the Thaiger specifically, I have seen this in other publications. I actually read about this for the first time in a print edition article in the Bangkok Post. I couldn't find its counterpart online then I found this article so I went ahead and quoted this. I am not just calling out the Thaiger on this. We like those folks, they are great over there. This just seems to be the evolving narrative. Again, I don't know what the right word is for it but really if people can't take a step back and look at this rationally and see that this doesn't lead to a particularly great place, then I don't know what to say. Quoting further: "The man was staying on Koh Chang in the Eastern province of Trat before going to a private hospital in the Muang District on Friday after experiencing symptoms. He had rashes on his genitals and hands, similar to what a patient with Monkeypox would have, according to the director of Trat Hospital where the German man ended up eventually." Quoting further: "When doctors suggested a monkeypox test on Friday, the man resisted and was uncooperative before making a break for it. The hospital called and alerted them,” (I think they mean the police) quoting further: "of a possible Monkeypox case now on the run on the run." On the run! Quoting further: "Police chasing him down, as refusing to submit to the mandatory test is in violation of Thailand's Communicable Disease Control Laws." Well I would like to really know which one specifically. As we have discussed many times, as I discussed over on the Thaiger at one point myself, codification is the main pillar if you will of the Civil Code System. You have to codify violations. I would very much like to know what the codified rule this guy supposedly would break because throughout this whole thing nobody knew he had it. This is before they knew he had it; they are just presuming. Don't get me wrong. I understand there is a lot going on here but as we will get to in a minute, I have to ask if the cure isn't almost worse than the disease.

When I say that, going over here to the Bangkok Post, bangkokpost.com, the article is titled: Thailand's third monkeypox case found in Phuket. Okay, I understand. There are public health concerns out there but this quote I thought was interesting. Quoting directly: "According to a worldwide infection report of about 20,000 known patients, only three had died. No deaths occurred among people with no prior chronic disease." That is from the Bangkok Post. I am not claiming I know anything about how this works but again, quoting directly: "According to a worldwide infection report of about 20,000 known patients, only three had died. No deaths occurred among people with no prior chronic disease." So yes it is out there. I get it, we need to be concerned about public health, but at what cost? Again what happened to due process of law and police are: "Police chasing him down." to quote the Thaiger again. I mean this isn't Dillinger, it's not Al Capone, it's just somebody who is sick and yeah, do they need to get treated? Yeah sure, but there is a balance to my mind between the individual's right to seek medical treatment on their own terms and society, quite frankly in their hysteria, chasing down and tackling people, with “pending tests” and “to be confirmed”. In these situations where you are not sure something, again I don't claim to quite know the answer to all this but what I do know is I think prior to March of 2020 across the world, I am not pointing Thailand out specifically but across the world I think we were dealing with these kind of matters far more reasonably, far more humanely quite honestly and honestly in line much more with notions of Human Rights and natural rights than what we have been doing recently.