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Difficulties Associated with Derivative Dependent Thai Visas?

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As the title of this video suggests, we are discussing derivative visas. I've been talking about this whole long-stay visa for quite some time. I'll leave it to content I made in videos I made contemporaneously with this one to discuss the long-stay Visa etc. itself; what I'm talking about here is specifically derivative visas. Let me jump in. 

I thought of making this video after reading a recent article from the Bangkok Post, bangkokpost.com, the article is titled: Phuket up in arms on long-stay Visa. And as I have discussed, this whole issue of a Long-Stay Visa might not have such a happy ending depending on how things play out here in Thailand. That said, moving on. Quoting directly: "According to the Immigration Bureau, since October 1, 2025, foreigners who bought a condo worth a minimum of 3 million Baht or rent housing for at least 85,000 per month are eligible to apply for a one-year long-stay Visa." Quoting further, and this is the important part for this video. "Family members or dependents can also apply for a Visa to stay with the buyers."

Yeah, okay, in theory. In many other cases involving dependent or derivative visas, I have got to be honest with you, one of the hardest types of visas for us to process and frankly one of the most difficult visas from like a paradigmatic standpoint in terms of what the Immigration Officers think of it, the derivative visa is the worst one because in some weird way, in their sort of bureaucratic thinking, it's almost viewed as like a freebie, and on top of it, it's just kind of a difficult thing dealing with derivative visas especially involving children because you have got to line up the timing of things like extensions, etc. 

Now as I've discussed in other videos - and actually if you go in and read that in in the Bangkok Post - the people who are up in arms being noted in the article also cite that, and it's along the same line that it being a freebie. They say, "well these people didn't pay for anything." And they basically say we think that the thresholds are too low for the Visas being given out based on the property ownership. And then on top of it, they're basically saying and these people that are derivative dependents, they didn't even actually buy anything anyway, so what are we doing there? Again it's part and parcel of that thinking that derivative visas are somehow like a freebie, and for that reason should be sort of, they should be subject to like heightened scrutiny or even not even given out to begin with. 

So the point I'm trying to make with this video is look, there may be other options besides a derivative visa that could be better under your circumstances or where a derivative visa is the only option based on circumstances, it's probably a good idea to have an experienced legal professional assisting because sometimes, navigating those waters can prove nearly impossible, again depending on the underlying facts here in the Kingdom of Thailand.