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ALERT: Prior Visas in a Foreign Passport Entering Thailand
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I actually came upon something, I think a viewer put me onto this, and I was over on Reddit and I found this. I am going to go ahead and start quoting: reddit.com under the title: I got almost denied of entering Thailand. Quoting directly: "This is my report of something that happened as it might help someone else. Recently I arrived in Thailand in the Suvarnabhumi Airport after a long exhaustive 29 hours flight....at the immigration line I was unlucky enough to be in the queue of an officer that was kind of more picky than usual." As you come to find, this wasn't really matter of being more picky. Quoting further: "Both lines on my sides were moving much faster than my line, and that 7 - 8 people queue to the specific Immigration Officer I was took like 30 minutes to go. On my turn, I had passport, Tdac and ongoing," - Tdac is Thailand Digital Arrival Card - Quoting further: "And ongoing flight all printed and easy. He asked where I am going to stay, which I answered and asked to see booking which I hadn't print so I showed on my phone. During all time" - I think during the whole time, - "he was back and forth on my passport pages, which are almost full I have 5-6 pages left. Here comes the catch. I used to have 3 full page visas on my passport 2 for Laos and 1 for Vietnam, which are no longer necessary in my life. Both Laos and Vietnam make you attach this whole page visa on your passport and then later stamp on a next page as they are single use after I used I took the liberty to remove," - yeah, bad idea. I'll get into that in a minute - "when I removed the Vietnam one I wasn't as careful as I should have be and it left a lot of glue residue in the passport...the page is intact no holes or damage, but when you have it on hands it is clear there was something there. I have this for at least five years now [it was a pre-COVID visa] and nobody ever paid attention to that, but because there was not many pages left and he was swaping all pages and maybe because he was one of those "attention to detail" person, he notices." Yeah look you can sit here and blame the Immigration Officer on this. The fact of the matter is a Visa was removed from a passport. That is an issue in any Immigration context. Quoting further: "There are two buttons in the Immigration cabin [yellow and red] then he presses the yellow button...and a big red light starts flashing in the cabin. another Immigration Officer comes from outside. They exchange a few words in Thai, and she escorts me to an interrogation room."
Yeah, so I am making another video contemporaneously with that one where I discussed secondary inspection. But the point of this video, and the reason for the ALERT is but I do get it. I get that the usage of these full-page Visa stickers or stamps that they will put in to people's passports are a pain. They use up a whole page and then you get a stamp that uses up at least a quarter of another page. And as time goes on and you start using up the passport pages, you don't really want to pay the whatever 150 or 200 bucks it costs to get a new passport, and the whole thing is just a matter of sort of a bureaucratic headache. I do get it but you are going to get into some real problems if you remove full visas from a passport. And by the way, there are mechanisms by which they can look into those things especially from the place where you had the visa to begin with; like for example I think you mentioned Laos and Vietnam were the two places, were the two jurisdictions from which he had visas that he removed them from the passport, and if you were to go back to Laos or Vietnam, that could be a real problem because they are going to have questions as to why you are removing evidence of travel history, they always are.
This is a big problem and it's something that I have noticed over the years, folks don't take overly seriously and again I don't think everybody has to be an Immigration Poindexter in their life, and you don't have to take every little thing seriously. And I really do have a problem shifting all of our paradigms into this notion that we all have to be insanely worried about every little thing that is in our passport. But that said, this is a pretty big deal. Once a Visa page is used up be it a Visa sticker, a visa stamp, or multiple Visa stamps, it is very, very unwise to alter that page in any way if for no other reason than you can find yourself in a secondary inspection situation in a third country; in this case this person was in Thailand. It didn't really lead to that big of a deal as noted in the title, this person was almost denied entry; they ultimately were let in. But long story short, you don't want to put yourself into a position where are you basically stuck in a man trap somewhere and they are pulling you into secondary inspection because you altered your travel history, you altered travel document. That is really, really problematic. I know it seems like something to many that is innocuous, but at the end of the day, it is not, it can be a real problem. So for those who are watching this video, take this alert seriously if you are thinking about removing visa stickers or visa stamps from your passport, it is probably a good idea to think again.
